Showing posts with label john scott. Show all posts
Showing posts with label john scott. Show all posts

01 June 2013

Continuing to Chart out the John and Roseanne (Neill) Scott Family of NewtownLimavady and Environs

This is a Google document that I've created based upon the entries I located in FamilySearch's Irish databases for children born to a John Scott and Roseanne (Neill) Scott in County Derry, Ireland.

The intent is to locate a copy of all the records that were used to create these index entries. The results from my searches were not easy to use, so I made a chart with essential information--including the call number for the microfilm.

I'm still working on getting a few materials and even noted one name that I cannot find again, but am hoping that I simply have forgotten how I searched for that one reference.

I've got a hard copy of the chart that I'm using at the library and am updating as I get time.




So far, no major discoveries, but it is always advised to get the original material upon which these entries are based--to make certain the transcription was correct and complete. So far, I've only learned that John was an laborer. But the entries have been correct and it's good to know that I have the transcriptions correct as well.

20 April 2013

Organizing the Scotts

Work continues on the family of John and Rose Anna (Neill) Scott of the Drumachose Parish in County Derry, Ireland.

A search of various databases at FamilySearch, coupled with the online index to baptisms at the Derramore (Ireland) Presbyterian Church has given me a tentative list of the children of John and Rose Anna (Neill) Scott. The earlier records do not indicate Rose Anna's maiden name, but the information on each row of the chart below was obtained from the source indicated.

The events listed are in chronological order by year.

Last Name
First and Middle
Event
Year
Date
Place
Parents
Source
Scott
Alexander
Born
1852
1 February
Drumachose
John and Rosanna Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Elisa Jane
Born
1854
2 Feburary
Drumachose
John and Rosanna Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Marianne
Born
1856
12 January
Drumachose
John and Rosanna Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Elizabeth
Born
1864
13 May
NewtownLimavady
John and Rose Ann (Neill) Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Eliza
Born
1865
12 March
Drumachose
John and Rosanna Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
James
Born
1866
18 August
Feeny
John and Rose Ann (Neill) Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Maria
Baptized
1869
26 September
Of Derrymore
John and Rosanna (Neil) Scott
Derramore Presbyterian Church records
Scott
Maria
Born
1869
23 May
NewtownLimavady
John and Rose Ann (Neill) Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Matilda
Born
1871
16 Nov
NewtownLimavady
John and Rose Ann (Neill) Scott
FamilySearch, “Ireland, Births & Baptisms 1620-1881.”
Scott
Sarah
Baptized
1872
18 June
Of Derrymore
John and Rosanna (Neil) Scott
Derramore Presbyterian Church records

What I need to do now is:

  • Locate the original records that were used to create the index entry in the FamilySearch database mentioned above. The index entries are a start, but I need to see the actual information to see if any other details are included--particularly names of sponsors. 
  • Determine why there are gaps in the years of birth for the children from 1856-1864
  • Attempt to track the family in more recent records.
  • Matilda's birth in November of 1871 and Sarah's baptism in June of 1872 warrant some study. 
A chart was used to organize the information as that is this author's preference. I'll wait to perform database entry when I've some connections a little more firmed up. My immediate goal is to try and find out what happened to the parents and see if I can locate any additional siblings for Rose Anna Neill. I'm already fairly confident that she is a sister of Samuel and Joseph Neill, Irish immigrants to West Point, Hancock County, Illinois, in the late 1860s.

19 April 2013

A Sister for Samuel and Joseph Neill?

I have been stuck on my Neills for years. A thirty-second lookup a few days ago lead to the likely discovery of one sister of my Irish immigrant forebear, Samuel Neill. The family and the discovery are summarized here in a way that makes sense--instead of how I researched it. I'm hoping that a descendant of the likely sister makes their way across this post and contacts me.

I am lucky that one of my Irish immigrant relatives was born in Ireland in the early 1860s--my ancestor's niece was born a few years before the family left Ireland, so our story will begin with Sarah's baptismal entry in a church in Derramore, Ireland.

Sarah Ann Neil was born on 24 October 1862 and baptized on 7 December 1862 at the Derramore Presbyterian Church in County Derry Ireland. Her parents were Joseph Neil and Ann Bryce. The family was "of Derrybeg" at the time of her baptism. A transcription of this record was obtained on RootsIreland at http://www.rootsireland.ie.

On 16 January 1862 at the Derrymore Presbyterian Church, Joseph Neil and Ann Bryce were married by Wm. [Jamison?], with witnesses of Wm. Mc Intosh and John Archibald. Joseph was of full age and was a bachelor who lived in [Taques] Hill in the parish of Drumachose. Joseph was a servant, and was the son of John Neil who was a laborer. Ann was a spinster of full age and was a servant living in White [??] in the parish of Drumachose. Her father was James Bryce, a laborer. This information was taken from the "Quarterly returns of Marriages 1862 Ireland Vol. 9," Family History Library microfilm roll 0101440, page 375.

This Sarah, her parents, and her uncle Samuel Neill, Joseph's brother, immigrated to New Brunswick, Canada in the 1860s and finally settled in St. Albans Township, Hancock County, Illinois. As mentioned in another page on this site, the Neills indicated they were from Newtown Limavady at the time they immigrated. Information on Sarah and her parents in Ireland is consistent with information on Sarah and her parents in Hancock County, Illinois.

Off to Google


A Google search for the Derramore Presbyterian Church located a website for the page, which I had seen before. What was not there previously was a transcription of early (1825-1899) baptisms from the church. I located the reference to Sarah Ann Neil, but I also noted that there were two births to a Neil mother--both with a residence of Derrybeg:

  • Maria, baptized on 26 September 1869
  • Sarah, baptized on 18 June 1872
Both children's entries indicated their parents were John Scott and Rosanna Neil of Derrybeg. There were only twenty-five entries with Derrybeg as a residence between 1825 and 1899--and only three of those indicated a parent with a last name of Neil.


I went back to the http://www.rootsireland.ie. website and paid for one more marriage record. This one was from the Christ Church in the Drumachose Parish (Church of Ireland). There on 1 August 1850, John Scott and Rose Ann Neil, both of Ruskey, were married. John Scott was the son of Robert Scott, laborer, and Rose Anne Neil was the daughter of John Neil, laborer.

The case is pretty solid. The chance there were two different John Neils with children who were contemporaries in the Derrybeg area seems fairly slim.

Next on the agenda..looking for John and Roseanna (Neil) Scott on the FamilySearch site.